Newspaper of The New York Herald, February 10, 1855, Page 2

Newspaper of The New York Herald dated February 10, 1855 Page 2
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termed. *f whleh Lord John KumD will be the heed, flfc Jidm Craham, who joined the sxistl n# coali tion u? PwMte will new aWndoa hia friends and\*ep hi* P?J"*: totu Formerly auch conduct would b?*e appeared Itain?*in England; but, in the eorfuatoo of par Wen S^^e^ich now prevail!, political conslstoacy ?, virtue no mewhat out of feafclon. ?r James Orahnm, tJravtj* ST bo norice in the art of auddenly wheeling SS To 1884 he left Lord Qrej'i cabinet to become * 2^ ind he now return* to whiglam, after baling paaeed SiSitw intermediate phaae of tbo oonaerratiTe *^"' lf we &re rightly Informed, Lord Aberdeen and EsYolkaauea do not retire on account of tbe charge* ?i&deuafnst t Mm respecting the way in which the war S^b^D conducted, the dlvUion to which their retreat >* to be attributed, la more torioue aad Important. It .V^thatLoid Aberdeen ha. not been ail* to a?ee the pr??iT .. the end propoeed to ha attainsd by Treaaury, the wtt 5-- -jjnlon of the Flr?t Lord of the character which it had at the teg.?,. t0 maintain the it ahould be limited to the obtaining the iou.<v* to any, the taking of SebaetopoL These two objects attained, Lord Aberdeen and his friends think that English policy ehcuid be a policy of peace, without aiming at any change in the territorial sitaation of Europe. On the other band, Lord John Russell aad Lord Palmerston are ?f opinion that the object of tbe war must not be re - tricted beforehand, and that a door ahould be loft open or every combination which the fortune of war may bring about in?the present state of Europe. We have no intention to esainine the new situation resulting to us /as FrenchmeiOfrom thin change in tho English minis try. It is probable that the ministerial queation will speedily be openly debated In Parliament, anil then the importance to France and Europe of the letreat of Lord Aberdeen, and the triumph of Lord John Russell'* and Lord Palmereton's policy, will appear in broad daylight. THE WAR IN PARLIAMENT. Segoilltloni tor Peace? The Resignation or Lord John Ruaeell? Ministerial C rials. THE NEGOTIATIONS F03 PEACE. ha the Boute of Ccumuus on the '23d ult., Mr Lat>ro said? 1 wish to put a question to tho noble lord the President of the Council ? viz., whether he had any objection to lay on tlir table of the house the correspon dence that has taken p'ace with foreign power* with re lard to tbe treaty of tho lid of December, 1854, and es pecially any document communicated to tho Russian government containing the interpretation put by the British and French governments on the Four Point*, not for negotiation, but for acceptance 1 Lord J. Rr?ucLi? I cannot at present say whethsr It will be possible to lay on the tabu any of the correspon dence to which my hon. friend refers. respect ti ibe coi respondent* generally, I may say that it will not ho usual nor for the convenience ot the public serrlea to ley it on th* table, but there may be one or tw 3 pipers m great importance which it may be poiilble to i?y ?a the table, and I will consider that point before I mkwt ? ilaal answer. Perhaps, a* my honorable friend has asked this nuestion, I may state generally what has occurred with respest to the Four Po'nts. In this Hate the question stands at present: ? At the end of November the Russian government, through the Minis tor at V.emn, declared their acceptance of what are sailed the Four Points. On the 2d 01 De:emb?r a treaty was stoned by France, Fn^land, an<l Austria, and on tho a?th of December a meeting was held by th? Ministers of ?'r?,nce, England and Austria, at Vienna, with Prince Qertacbakolf, the Minister of Russia. At that meeting the French Minister read, on the part of his own govern ment and of the governments of England and Austria, the interpretation which those three Powera put on the Four Points, and which should be conudered as th > fiisij ?(negotiation. I will mention only that with raped to A< lUrd point, it 1 vat proposed in that interpretation to jMil on end to the preponderance of Hutlia tn the Black ?Sea. Prince Gortschakoff stated that he would not ?free to tie proposed Interpretation of the FourPo'uts, hut that he would request further instructions from bis ?evemmtnt. Ten days afterwards he informed C~unt Bnol that be had received those instructions, aad on tho *th or 8th of January another meeting was held at the office of the Austrian Minister for Foreign Atlairs, and at that meeting Frlnce iiort'chakotT read a msmorind'im which hs sail he hod veil, and which contained the views of his gc\ er'.u:- . It was replied by Count B isL Lord merelend tnd Baron de Bourqueuey that tbey hi l no authority to reccive any such memorandum, aod that they muet require, at Ike bait of rhgoliation ?, the con tent ef the Jtuuian Plenipotentiary to the mterprcia'ion, erf which he had alrcviy received information, The Hai nan Plenipotentiary, as Ixyrd Westmoreland states it his despatch, then withdrew the memorandum he had raul, mm d declared the acceptance, on the part of hii govern ment, rf the communicated interpret a' inn as the fan's of mtgduiliont. My hon. fr.end mil understand that the Busman government, in accaptiog th it iuVrpratat oa as the basis of<ous, of course resjrve to theni-e'.ve.i th* pewei, when the baids is laid down In artidsB, to ?sake any cbjec i<u which t'sey miy think (it. The gov ?ren.ect ol her Ma jetty declired that ttoy were ready t? enU-r into n?gotlaMoiis upon the basis 1 have mentioned, kat no powers are glveu to our uiinistrr to negot ate (Hear, hear.) Sir II. Willocgdiit Inquire! whether there wou'.d be any objection to the production of t'.c protocol of the 28th of DecMuberY Mr. Latahd alno wi-h?3 to knov whother the Hons 1 afceuld uaderetanl wli?th<r nego'iauons were a:tu?Hy geiag cn, or wrre suspended al prosenti1 Lord J. HrSsmi repliud, with respect to the q-ioHim put fry tbe honorable baronet, that that was a point whi:U he reserved for consideration; and, with respect to th* < ther question, he begged to say thit nequtia' (oni had nvt yet tegun on the basis he 'iad mentioned Mr. Bright understood the roble lor J to 11/ tVat c*r 'aia terms were offered to Ruaaia, and he underatood .hat after some <leliber?t on, R issia had coisented also '? that one of the Four Po'nta alii h had for its objest 10 put an <nd to the predojinauoe of Russia in the Klack t<*a. lie hoped the noble lord would not withirav trcaa that, and he wanted to know wh-th-r instructions were about to be went out for the |>?rpo*e of opening Mfotiatioet, a a the noble lird I' ft tho House to infer the contrary. Would, when a distinct proposition ha i keen accep'.ed, ;natruction, tor the prosecut.ou of ne^o ?ia'ioc s, be lent ou'f Lord J. Rrwri l had already stated that tbe govern ment bad eapreiseil their willingness t > negotiate on ttie Four Points ; but th*y coul 1 no*, state anything further. #liear. htar.) IMPEACHMENT OF CHE MTNRrER*. Ii ;be Horn* of l orJn, Thursday, Jan. a5, i-ord lAXO iwwr gave notice that on Krtday, tlio 21*t or February, If wc uld move the following resolution : ? Tbat in the opinion of tnia House the expedition to t!ie Crimea w?- undertaken by her Majesty'* government with very inadequate meant, and without due eautlou or M.fft ?tent innairy into the nature and extent of the reolatanoc to M*xp*tted from the enemy; and that the neglcct and mit management of the government in the conduct of ih5 en t?vpri*o have led to tbe noil dliaatrom result*. The Earl of Ellknborouuii said be had given notice ol' hie intention to move on Monday for certain returns, fcjMJ Lad intimated that bo would take that opportunity ef w.a? ng tone remark* on the conduct of the war Ho uaderttood that n noble aud learned Friend of hi* ( Lord Lyndbnrst) bad to night given notice or a motion that weald br ng under consideration the get.eral couluct of the war, aud be (Lord Ellenborongh) thought, there tare, that it wa? not advisable that be ahould bring for ward od Monday the motion of which he hal given no. tlee, but he wo jld move for tbe return* in queation on acnce other day. THE MINISTERIAL CBIM3? RE3IQJJ ATION OF LORD JOHN RUSSELL. k> tbe Bouie of Lonla on the *2tfth ult , the Ear) of AaanwBn Mid ? It i* fitting that your lordship* should ?eeeive route information ol the circumstances connect ed with tbe retirement of my noble friend the President of the Council from the situation which be held in Her Majesty'* government. That retirement, my lord*, miut ?Materially affect Her Maj*aty'* gcverairent, and, trom tbe itatloa and character of my noble fr:eoii, gr-?nt im portance moat be attach*] to it. I am not fully poaseaa *4 ef all tbe motiwe-i which ma* have induced my nosle friend to adopt thi* oourae, but 1 cannot do better p-r ?tape, than read to yotir iordlhi pa the letter containing tbe offer of bia rcignation, wbicb 1 received on Ta**day lart ? , Jan 33. IMS. II* P? ah I.obb't? Mr. Koebncli Das niveu no tine ef a motion fi r a committee to inqntra into the oondaot ?I the war. I do nut ?ee bow thli motion I* to i>* raeintvu ; >nt, a> It lov?lvea a cen. nre npon tbe War Department eon 4noted ty my rollcssuc*, my only ennrte la to tender mv re agnation. I hare therefore to request that yon will lay my fcaaotle resignation ol the nftlce whieh I have tae honor to held tefore tbe (jucen, with the e\press|no ol my gratitude *ot Iler M*je?ty'? kindness tor m.iny yrari pait. 1 remain, my dear l.ord AVcrdecn. yonr? very trnly, j. ltcRtnli.u Accord ng to my noble friend'r de-ire, 1 laid hi* r? inf lation before her Majesty, who baa been grar oualy pleaaed to accept it. I have (aid. my lord*, that 1 wat wet fully poateieed of th? motives? all the m-.tirei ? whieh may have indue*1] my noble friend to adopt thla ?euree. 1 wa* perfectly aware that *ome time ago? two month* ago ? my itoMe frumt dinai'i ro yxl. or irnj dim ti'ftd I cUh. Iht rondii' t Qf thr tear, but after the e*pla aation* which took place' no that o? ration, and after hit ron?tant activity In ?1 aring the buain**s and prep.vfnf the meaaurea of government up to the <lay rn whieh Par liament as -enabled, I w*a certainly somewhat aurprlied, j a* wall a* deeply concerned, at receiving the letter which J have juat read. My noble 'riend may be at thi* moa>?nt , giving? atall event*, it wai hi* Intention to do no to-day? ? fall explanation ot hh motiv * and of bl* conduit It if nit (or me to do note than to eipreaa, which I 4 i meet uafe'gnedly. my deep regret at the *tep which my ?eble friend ha* thought It hi* duty to take. My lord*, ao one can poeiibty If el mcie than I do the great lot < which her Majesty'* government rant auataiu by *n^h ?n ?Tent a*<bi*. Indeed, many of tour lordthipt may r? ?oll*ct tbatat the formation of the present tiove ro in tn I e*pr***ly stated tbat I newr would have ventured t> I ???le-take the formation of an adminlitraticn, ha-' I no*. ?Mured th? active co-operation ar.d ae-latar. ?* of nr no ble friend. I'nc'er tbe*e ciraumataacea, and In orl?n\ry ttaoe*. I might, per ha pa, have tnyneli adonted a diff?r?n' ceurae, but In t he rreaent condition of thi* onntrv, a 1 1 tf tbe war, and of bar Maje*ty '* Coverom nt, I felt It 4ne to onr own honor, to our own con*i*t?n -y, and t > nr mie cf duty, to ireet that motion which i* to h? aia<*e to nlgbt, in another place, which wi'l deride whether a cen?ure I* to be pronounced upon h?r Maje*. ty'? Oovert ment or not. Thereioro, even without the great, and powerful, and almoat iBd;*pen?ablea**l!-?*uc* ?f my noble friend, we have thought It due to ourwlve* *e meet the mot on *o announced, wbicb induced me to take tbe ronrfe I hare now ?tat*?. Lord J. krwrji then roae to mako hi* promlaed atate w.ent to '.be Home. He aaid ? At thereo'ieet of my nob:* friend at tbe head of tbe govamment, I have poe'poned ?D tbl* day the atatement I wf?b to make w'tn r^'peet t* ?y re*lgna* rn of the efllce whi -b I lately hid tbe b*aor to hold- -that of Prealdent of the Oouncll. I ?'tail j CM Mcefth. matter, fearing that tb* *Ut?m(?.t I ' t* to make may be proton red mire than I could with tt ebon Id be. On Tne?day lart, when I wa* pre-irnt In 1 tbieh****, the honorable and learned gentleman, tbe aiewiber f*T Hkf?eld. gave not I. -e of a not! no for a aelect ?omwiKtee "to inquire Into the con 1 1 ti on of o-ir irniy before Seb**topol, and into tb* conduct of tho.ede nae'aaeaf* of the govemnxnt whoe* dnty it baa been i te mialeter to tbe waau of that army.'' fir, I, ml covte, bad tbongbt that it vcttl) be prikable *;*? I member might me?* for an inquiry of this kind. 1 had not, however, fully considered the couito that I ought to toko. Thot, of couroo, dependod much on tho nature of tho motion that might ho made, and 1 should lay, likewise, thot It dojoodod muoh on tho quarter from which it might come. Tho honorable MM In mod gentleman, tho member for Sheffield, it U evident! la in a poeition to evinoe no hoe till ty to tho govemmeiit. which hehas supported, and I oould not conceive thot he b*d any other object than that which wt hitj ell ?? heart ? the rigorou* provocation of tho war. (Cheer* ? ) Now, sir, with respect to the power of '?quljJ. ? U ? most valuable privilege of thie House. Tbii llouee nM tj i\ convcw muiw, ?7' - _ strengthens those establiahmenU which it may seem for a time to sbske. A motion for inquiry, however, may be reuieted on two grounds? tho one, lhat there are no evils existing of sufficient magnitude to call for inquiry; the other, that sufficient meana hare been taken to re medy thoee evil*, and thot they will be beet cured by pAwt means than by o rsaort to the inquisitorial fc-ussjsz. sur - 1, ?srJK? JHhZx of "Hear, bear.") the account* ?e3Q9~L,iL fr0 m that quarter tvtry week are not only painful, but Kbh m, ttn(J heart-rending (hear, hear); and I am sure no one woina oppote for a mom* nt any measure that would bo likely not only to euro, but to do anything to mitigate those evils. (Coeers ) Sir, I must ?av that there is some thing, with all the official Knowledge to which 1 have hid access, that to me is inexplicable in the state of our army. (Cheers ) If I had been told as a reason ag.iinst the ex { edition to the Crlm' a last year that your troops would e seven miles from the sea, seven miles from a secure Srt? which at that time, when we had in contemplation e expedition, we hardly hoped to possess? and that at that seven miles' distance they would be in want of food, of clothes, and of shelter to such a degree that they would perish at the rate of from 90 to 100 a day, I should have cox aidered such a prediction as utterly preoosterous, and such a picture of the expedition us entirely fanciful and absurd. (Hear, hear) We are all, however, free to confess the notoriety of that melac cboly state of things. (Hear, hesr.) It was not therefore by denying the exist ence of the evils that I could hope to induce this Ho me to reject the proposition of the honorable and learned gen tleman: but 1 had further to reflect that 1 was in a posi tion not to give a faint ' No" to the proposal ? not to express in vague and equivocal language a wish that tho motion should not be carried, or to use any evas'on with respect to tho letter of ita terms with a view to de feat the motion. (Hear, hear.) It was my duty ? a duty which. I trust, 1 have ever perforrael when in that sltuition ? to stand in the front of the battle, and man fully to take my part in opposing the appointment of that committee. (Hear hear.) Then, sir, I hud to con sider whether I might not givt. the second reason for refusing the committee t? which I have alluded, viz: tliat nmasurcs bad been taken, that arrangements were in progress, by which thofe evils Would be remedied, and by whrth the administration of the war would be vigor ously and, as wan to be hoped, successfully prosecuted. Sir, I should have been more disposed togivo lhat rea son, because it is obvious that the conceision of a com mittee on the subject? a committee silting for weeks, perhaps for months ? would lie faUl to the efficiency of those military purposes which it would chietly affect. There was, therefore, the strongest inducement, if possible, to put forward such an obj<ction to the inquiry which the honorable anl learn ed genliemun proposed to make ; but, sir, I foui d upon reflection that it was impossible for me to urge with effect, an l according to my own con science, at d with truth, that objection to the propor tion fcr a committee. (Hear, hear ) I hope the Hou'e will here permit mo to refer to some circumstances per fonal to myrilf, though they hardly come within the scope of the statement I have to make. When the office of Secretary of State for War was separate! from tile of fice ot Secretary ol State for the Colonics, Lor j Aberdeen thought it right to propose to the Unit of Newcastle to k?ep which of the two offices h? should most desire. The Duke of Newcastle, with a commendable ambition, as I th.nk, replied that, having exerted himself in fitting out a very larRC expedition, he should, of course, like to remain at tLe head of the departmeit which should have the dtie-.tion of the orders for that expedition and the general management of the war. Lord Abori'eeo eon'ent ed to that arrangement, and I was a consenting party te the appointment. At the end of the cession the vailous me mbers of the government, especially thee who aro members of this btu>e. <iis| ei ;ed, as ih>-y usually do; and it appears to me that that dispersion, aitrr the excessive luliors of this li .use. Is neces-ary to the due performance of tlieir duties, sd<{ do one, unless he has tJ discharge very urgent duties, is to blame for reporting for pu'r 80M B ol health to oistnnt parts of the countiy. (Hear, e?r ) 1 was not in sny rfliee which obliged mo to take any part in the conduct of the war; but, during my ab sence, ili*re wan scarcely a day in which I did not b >th receive from and write u lotter to ny nob.'e friend the Sfecrttory of a .ate for Foreign Affairs is ith respest to the occurrences that were taking piace. It las Inrn said I went lecturing about the country at that time. (A laugh.) The truia is, an hono-able friend of mine, the member for Bristol, had ?aM, on the day tbii House st parated far the holidays, that it would give grrat uia titicaUon to Ins hiends at Bristol If I wou>d attend al te rary society in that place, and the day was named be tween us. lh? n, wten 1 was coming fr. en tie, and j being at ihe bouse of my brother, ue luformed m"? that his neighbors in Bedford would be gratified if 1 would at tend a literary meeting iu that t wn 1 comp ind with these t?o r< quests, which certainly did not exhaust much j time, or i all lor much study with respect to what I hid | to say. (A l.iugh.) I conceived, Lowuver, that as l*resi I dent of the Council, tbese motings were not very alien liom the o;?j?i.ts of that office, (''Hear, bear," and 'augliter.) it lias, ueverthclei a, b en cast on ma as an i imputation that 1 atteni ed to the request of th^ae j gentlemen But, passing from that to a inure important j point, 1 have to Ua'o that, having attended all the Cati , inet councils that met on thin ? object, I wrote to my I noble friend Lord Aberdeen at the time that 1 supposed I there woulo be Cabine. meetings ? at the beginning of i Octobers? that I should be ready to attend them when ever they Hi"'. My noble frien.l, in np'y, in'ormed mo that be sfcouid not return from ifcotl ind till tbe 14th of October, and on tho 13th of October a Cabinet council wss held, nil. cli I thought it u.v duty to attenj. H it in the coursit of that, month, an I lrom the beginning of Ihe month of November, it struck me that a better ad ministration of affairs relating to the w ar was r* quire ?. (Cheers.) I made up my mind wiih considerable .diffi culty. It was a matter that affected, in some d'gres. the re| u atiou of a colleague who had not ton,? lir:'or.) , assumed the office which he held; but, still, I thought | that duty In peratively called upon me to state my | views, and a corn sponilenco ensued between my noble I trie id al tbe hsad of the government and myself, from which I shall be obliged to read some extracts in order 1 to put th< House in po.i^eM.on of tl.e ground on which I | csine to the ? Oilsien at aiilcli I arrived en Tuesday eve | ning last. Ibe correspondence itself is long, and en'erv | Into the details of some personal mitters it is quite un | neces'srv to quote; but, ?s it is, 1 m ist request the I House to listen to the representation which I thought it nececsary to make sml to the answers 1 received. (Hear. | hear.) 1 wished, if possible, to put th? matter in a li<ht ! thaw would l>?ar ra'her the air of a different official ar ! r?n/< ment than any displacement of individuals. I therefore stated the queatiou of the War Department in | two joints ol view ? tbe cne as r. ferriug to an arrange ! ment which it was necessary to make, in consequence of the pledge given to tbla nou-e last session, that the who'o e?f the War D?partir.ent should be considered with a view to airim^euients which should provide for its effi. cii ncy , and Jie other point 01? view relating to the car rying em of the war. (Hear, bear ) With respect to tbe first point, 1 said I tho.ight it was of tbe utmost luapor Unce that a perxon of the ran. of Privy Councillor should hell office in this house, upon whom should de. volvu the moving of tbe war estimates, and who should le an authority able to answer the various difficult quee tiona which I ioretaw would come before tbe House. (Hesr, liesr.) 1 will not trouble the llome with any de tails on that pait o: the 'ubjec.t, but I proposed tnal the ( of Secretary of State fur War and the office of Sec I retary at War should lie held by tbe same person. (Hear, | h<ar ) In a letter addressed to tlie (Carl or Aberdeen, on ! the 17th e>f November, 1854, I said;? I'Tnnj the othrr tx-int n f view the pr*?r?ct ii equally clear. M c are in tun midat of m urea; war. In order to carry n> tbat ? ?r with atBckney, either the l'rim? Minuter must L? eutiiaui^j untitle, 1 aaUnin*, coni|>lotlng the military {?rcl aratlonr, i r I he Mlntnter of W ar must he strong enough n control oth> r departmanta Erery objection of other Minister ? tb? plea of foreign InWrosts 'o he uttand-d to, of t;*tal preparations not yet eompl' te. and a Thousand others, justifiable in lb* laparat* head* or d< parlmeats, muit he t..ri < 'I i<> 1 1 i'M to the paramount miiiHy w ? thu ? ar ? I ?1: < fflclcney of *?eh ?crrire, and completencst of mean* to the > nd in *i? w. (Cheers.) If. therefore. the Brat toailderatlon* here pretested lead to tb? eoiiclii'lon that the Secretary of Stato for t!i? War Department tnu?t I e in the Hour* of Common*, the latter consideration* point to the ne.'omity of ha vim; in that otftc* a man w ho. fr m aaparien ?!# of military detail*, from iiihe retl 'l.or ?f mind, and from .vii^ht with the lfoua* of L\im n one, mn I ?? expected to guldi the rreat operations of war * :th autbcrU> an I mricu. Hear, ne*r) there la only mo perien I elmi' It* in the ^nTernmrnt who ?? mUac these a ! * ? n i arc * ? to > roadation ii that b fore rsrliaincat m-"t< I (ltd I'aiir.t t< too >h ,i I <1 I* ibirutUd with the acalt of lb* War Depart moot. (Cheers.) That in the opinion I kit*, confidentially, to the Earl of Ab?r>!?en H?'!or?- 1 read tl.t K?rl of Aberdeen'* ao ?w?r, I bare to say tbat the Karl vt Aberdeen hiring re queateiJ ?< in* day? to easier a mt'.ltr of Ruch impor t.n-e. J ?rot ? to ta'ra a^a'n no tie 18th of No\tml?r, itat na tl.*t I concurred in tbat il?Uy, adding ? lm h. hn*fwr that he'-ra yfi 'Velds you should ?how to.i Isttef to tht Duke of Xtweastle. Itvas my intemon in writln/ tl>e letter to avoid throning any npia hiin. Ir.dc t, (think he detfr?*s eery k-reat credit for the cacr tii ti?l.' ka? Mad*, lint tebi-nut b.vl the authority rt<|iil rite fi.rjn>r<at a sphere, and ha? not teen able to do all that hateboen done with lar^r power* of con r il. To try Vt'er Ixrd Abtr le#n rrp!'?d? tnittaklng my j-t'ipu'lti n I mint sty? that he rotiM nat av|ilesc* in the piy.|"??al I had made, Ob the 21st of NaTeinber bo ?rlte? 'h??: ? Yot.r |T.ipo*al beia* founded en the >nprn,?d iaipr^pr ty ef lt<rler< nioelac tbe k*i.m?'e>, and the oontiMj'ieat aecea ?ity ef the Seer< ?ary ol War heinr ia the llouae of Com rione, f. n ler the rt wmal of the 1'uke of Newcaitl* from bii prr o nt ( do e ur neni.laMe. lint, altkotich yon would re rant il i aa the lm uial.le r??nlt of an ( Ol'.lal arrangement, t la aoi to )>e .t'l oar l that It would he (rnrid' red in tbl* t? bt hy th.- pul lie, or, Indeed, ky any Impartial portoa. The dlvlocation of the reei-rnn^ent w.<nlil he ?? jr?at, and the rea?<n a?i ned for it appafatly ?o inad*<|i<ate that iteould i nl i ' ? i on<o>r<d an a id de of lubititntin/ on* man for anotbir. Altlu nth you mty t? far from *ktrrtainta< any ?u< Ii d- nr< , the t rat'. taction ? o il I recti v* no othci lotert rc tati'.n. In I' -fir* to the I) ik', I do not think that hl? eol I'a^nei, e itnont ?ery itroiif arenada, would wiab to p!ae* him In ineli a pn. ltion. In th# rther part? of hi* It, tar Lord Aberdeen atatad that h# illd ant thlok any maa wor.l I undertime th* da tie* which I pr ipo?ed innald he undtrtaaen by on* per too? ?lr., tlo*e of fecretary of fltati. for tbe V ar D? ptrtmraf, and, at the ?ame time, S. ;r*t^ry at War H* conH^ere-l It to bt Bece??ary that a prlry councillor'* offreahonld b? raamUiaed and that tbat rfllc?ahoild he htM la conatctton with the flnan-e* of the army, in dtp< odtntly of the St rtt.ary or Htatt for the War Pt partmen*. B* atated, al'O? a eonalderat<on well dtatrr inr of attrrtlnn- that It m'*ht he deairahle that hert afttr aiililarj chltf. who wa? in tht H >uee of Lord*, ehf'ii !d hart the rfll -e. tad, therefore, it enuld not be alw&y* held by a member of the Ho ta* of Csmmona I tr ?r|i*ere<t th# rariou* obJ#*tfnn* of l ord Abtrdcta, aad on th# W'h of Woreicber f wrote a? follow* _ I -oat#, tfcerfor* ha?l?* el*ared th* rnl ef all thea* ttitmt/?t?,ictt*rf?l ?? th?r?<i .mm^ata S? which w# BeWiaa aaide all pttMDt arrangement. "* " ' EST i ul^lad!^1 ** WMt *f *?*? ?Bd co? ?2?h* ?cter.^?.d^s n.wialdy initrunent for carry tagoawY, U m? fVriEh iH:irSrFr?',? 4"il!r3SrSH?sS SWMLr VS^t10 eOBIM^"at?on can tak. btitit Bias who eti b. found for that dtaty. <uIJ, > .J" l0. Jhif ?Ire*fT?d * 'on.K 'ett#r from Lor. n? ao^BH ?d u .ifforu^w.to_the Houw- 11 u Dvke of NewM.tiV -oil* ai A*.?. in thl?k'?? ">?? ?? tsceptica to tbfi itiru lu!^ ??#* maB *? wi"1 ,or W ?t t h" *,ui ?t knof ih- /"?r' B.ut 1 ">??? <>>>??"? tkt War Depart auni waa fl?tt*?r f2X "? V1?* office a? le I 'y, tie Colonial Office Srl? ^PifiSf * ** ??biequtt- I wan made to the choice of the War liJUri bJec'l?B *h*'<),r "?r, at Tar an I am awn%? p*rtu,cnt bJ ?ha D?e; meit of the office. Now I thfak iw0Blent,.f? mama although another rerioi mi-?? i t'?" wil1 aJmit ut' ferrad on tto J^l*. b"B I*' <nt tllrg to di.rlaca a rnVn -ho h. ..? ' J' '? * Ter> <"*'? ally and homtiMy mere]? liTtl?. rifi (^,.Ci. r'!<d iu dcl?? la found ttill mrrc Jfflcieot n^JSXflSln another m:ht vice niii.t lie the flrtt ol.jec? bn? Vt th! pn,lic ,r Proved defect or alleaed lnrln.'n(?? 'i the abtence of ny reaaen for ?.oh aeW.? !??"'.!*; 1 ?????*- ?o nutlWt b? ateaHof lattice a^d'.oodfa'ith *' ?.k Ua,oro<il" :?? } t. "do'uttedfeaSSV,^0^ Vf.* th", uulett af? olutefy necetMry' o Hg'&'A "" a g< vernmrnt, I most r?Mat thJt I ?_^y to weaen ciir.nie ud it to tha Queen could not bon?itl)re h nutation, told iim that, aa heVd mm iJL .V f &%SSS?i2l8&<5&&$ iSI m * govfrwneut unl remote him from ,?? ] should not preaa the matttr further. I should my imitation arose very much in cona*inan'-e of tie -TuHr^th^h **hr*otiUr- "tlh t).e doaest ' who^i?^ thought tie charge unao'TiaabJe, and that it ?mM advised tihat I^hould1 B?t ^eaB?it.,'*No*r,'l*w}i?nni'ataod have bee n>t^at"?h?*^n4? >"* wh*n 1 *m tolJ. <" I ^aw^^s^-asasiS! whottTh^ 0f ^teWi "ho0^1^?^ was abatnt "? eorr??POB<l?nco took pUce nrV.rf -1'. ,0'1 to ", ora 1 ?fter?arda read it Ha nrged me, conawerirg the objection which had been hear \ TJjtJ'T, V' Ka,t? ??> funhw^ Hw men l h?;, f u .b*155 th* ( ?* with ^ as honor of iSfliflffi pnrtttentr C?V^^l1?n auJ1 .lmProvement ot those de time ; and it ?, ?ow 1 VhiS, "* l'n\MVotM {r0Ia to X' /rVo?r'^ IWh'?rd'Uio'mc?^n ul.ij a j.ropo.-'al wan maCe in the Cab'nAt i n???ir save >?!?!>' i J 15 it iuconple:? and ineffloieiit. I ?uM?ot i?!?. .}"*P.1r my owt vi?W4 on the I nt i I J i > "ou'n will observe, wis very lately Xted l?h?'fr 1V, X,,ect thU n,y viewa ^fouM be' i? tru? that iv?? Vloal i - ev*,B ,,a?e it ItlttS inn SSd ?t ?i!3I?i ^h? fought #t th? Alint; at !i r t u ?ulje? t (bear, he-r); but I can tell ton tl.n such auatiK< im-uta have lv?n rna^e? tb;it a man of ?]\nT Ht>& -fnry has taken the omluct of the U.^ wsrtw rCln ,?UCl' ?ol,D'ol"??tl?n or olBvea aa tHear |,w ^5 I c' nl nT* ' TV" "vUnb a deoUratlon ?oti,:n ?f 'i't^LTeo^Tot'oV^r^r.^ d' !Zwt*ZhSr:L "*<1 toitrol, and of ..jftufont Jhhe,?fhtt#lh',r ''' Pn' (^'j I could' iot .'ay fit her that the arrangement which bad been nronosed dJVartreVnVa ?ad>|l.t" t.h* COn"ol1i'1atlon of t"e mil.tary ?..! ? i 2 eilbt r b ten cn-rled fnt > effect or was in J' ONpcc in nicb a way that I could pledge th# faith of ??rSH he way of tl?at which mary would think miaht ^IT >r \ & rrme;, forthope aufferinga7 and diatwwC wltfh Igstsss-I that iU 'ii rl by, aitting up aUlr' corl i.uVih! ,M'? ''<? f?r *!"? ahould hare Sot only to ordinary ceceraitie^of th^J0 Pr0Tid? fur the I thought sufficient to prevent it ?n? *,"ur?11 waieh bar ) hMSRL' ^wS&?5S* ?hU!? ^:rJ sfs?as-? SSafi r ??. .r?', ^ r. io tiai rote i recnvea no answer ; but on tbe follow ing evenirg my n< ble friend Informed me that he bad been to Windsor with my ;e?ignation. and that her Msj?etv had been pleased to accept it with the gracious o*| reeeion rf ter gr?at concern in do!ng no. Tbii, ttien, ?o far as this Immediate statement is concerned, In my case with respect to my own conduct. Tb >se ministers, w*io believe that they can snceessfullr oppose Inquiry ? wl.o believe that tbey ate rlglit in respect to what haa txrn dose atd wba' la do n<, will be perfectly justified In tatiHg tbe p*rt of objecting to the nreposN commit tee. I should have been out of place in such company, i Hear, b< ai > Uu'. at the same time I must aay, that ( Lave beard inat thtre i? a rumor, and 1 hope a true one, tbat tbe arrange*! ent which I propose 1 in mj first latter ot the l"th of November, or rather In aiy subsequent letter ? rsrre'y that of plscii g the seals of theWsrD* pat'tnent In the han>>* cf the noble lord, tbe Hums :-ecretan haa beei made. (Hear, hear ) I nhall grsatly rejoice if tbat Is th? ca?e, for I bel evc it will be of great benefit to the cruntr* that mi noble friend (I/ird ialmeratos) ?hcui. held that oilice. (Hear, hear.) I ?Vail be glal to think that try ;e':renie.t from office has in any way contributed to th?t ebin/e, and I t? litre it nr al in some way ha'e contributed to It, ( hear," and iauKbttr.l fwr otlierwiie I hare no <cubt '.hat nr.y coble friend, I.ird AbcrVen, with the fain esa and candor which b*'cng to him, and which 1 alwajs <aund In him. would have answered the Utter 1 I ave ju?t >ead, by ?a) ing tbat e rcumstancea bad in ?oire respect chsnged, that tnat whlei he coald not honestly mcmnind to the tjueen in November he had thought neces'ary at the pre-en' time. (' lie^r," and Ipughter ) ar.d that therefore my difficulty in oppoeing I the motion of in<, u ry in ght b- In some :?gree lessoned, f not entirely removed. (Hear.) Tbat cannot hare j b'en the ea?. This must have been a subsequent ar rsrgen.cnt, and I shall be wry glad if my retirement I from the Ires important oilice, in the present conjunc ture, of President cf the Couu. il could hive led to the I at re'ntir.ent to t?:e W?r Depertmest of my coble friend, the Henre Secretary, of whom I cannot speak in higher terms than I have eady ueed in ^ne of ray lettsra. (lleer, k?ar.) Hsvlng ?'tted tbus nrneh with respect to my position and the position of the government, f hare sot regularly auy ri#ht to go further, but as prhapal shall take no part in the d*b?te on tbe motion of the Hon. and learned member for Sheffield, and as It ia not ay intention even to give a vote on the question, I mat be permitted to ssy somewha*. more lnitf< fence totte present state of public affaire. (Hear, hear.) 1 should state. In the first place, tha'. 1 believe tbat all partlea in this house, without distinction ? for I will make no distinction whatever, are anaiona that the war should be carried on, aa the meeting at Leeds de clared, ey the most vigorous measures, until we can ob ta n a iost and honorable peace (cheers); and I repeal my opinion that tho?e mea*or*s which are the most vigorous for the proeeeution of the wnr, and thoee terms of seace which are m?st decidedly and unuuestieaahly j it at and honorable, will meet with the ao?t favor from ail parties in this home. (Cheers.) I there1 ighly W l.eve that i any trlniush attsnda her Majesty's anne, these who kre in ' ppo?'ti<n to Tord Aberdeen's fwvem uent will as jMtrt ij rejoi?* ?* ii?t txiamjhne the |?r- < NiMt thraasalve*. (Hmi.J This it laaat glv** jmt MUtlM rtjmMt for carrying on th* (onriMtt with success. What further I b*i( to ifl li, that I do net thlnk^ that the general aapect of attars abroad at all was rant* th* depression which I *ee it haa in torn* quar tern produced. No doubt the account* which ire Mr* reo*iv*d from our eamp before S*ba*top*l are gloomy and dlaheartenlng : hut, with reepect to the great objects of the war in which we are engaged, 1 belftte that our preepecta are by no me ana gloomy. When 1 ?poke on a former occasion with reference to Austria, my language was most erroneously con strued ae depreciating the conduet and inten tions of that Power. Now, I wish to give srery credit snd importance to that which Auitria haa done. It ia in consequence of the large armaments she has made, the equipment of her army to the extent of 500,000 men, the entrenchment and strengthening of points which were weak, and the raising of an enormous force or cavalry ? it la in consequence of these prepara tions that the Emperor of Russia haa abated much of hia pretention*, haa been ready to consent t? terms which In last Auguat he utterly rejected, and that ho now aeriously considers whether or not he will make those concessions which are neceaaary for the purpose of procuring peace. It is in a great degree owing tot he admirable ability and, still more, the admirable patlenoe exhibited by Lord Clarendon in his negotiation* (hear, hear) that we have the advantage of Austria throwing her weight into negotiation*, with the aaaurance that u a peace auch aa ahe thinks safe for Europe cannot bo obtained she will act with the allies, bringing with her the aid sf 600.000 men. We have, in the next place, to rely, without the anallest hesitation or doubt, on the fidelity of our ally, the Emperor of the French (cheers), of whose gocd faith, beadiea all other action! and all other assurance*, I saw and heard auch proofs during my last residence in hia capital, that I cannot have the alighteat hesi tation in assuring the House that the two countries of England and France will remain united to the end of this great struggle. (Cheers.) Well, then, with these advantages 1 think we may hop* to aeeone of two things? one, to doubt, more desirable than th* other; hut the other, at the lame time, an honorable oourse, and one frtm which we should not ahrink:? either the Emtert rof Russia will make those con :esaiona which will be juat and honorable for England, for France, and for the aaiety of Europe; or, if he should Tail in making those concessions, there will be such a force of Eu ropesn aims collected against him that final triumph Must attend those arms. (Hear, hear.) I could not help expressing this ocnvietlon on the present occasion, because I thiik that, whoever may he Minister, he may rely, first, on the patriotic feeling and loyalty of this Bout (hear, bear), next on the unflinching alliance of the Emperor of the Frtnch, and thirdly, on the assist ance of the Emperor or Austria, if honorable terms of peace cannot be obtained. (Hear, bear.) Perhaps I may be permitted to say, as 1 have now leftl-ord Aber deen^ government, tbat I cannot refrain on thia occa sion from quoting the worda of Sir R. Peel with rospect to that ncble lord, and also from declaring that, in my opinion, they are fully justified. When Sir R. Peel waa leaving office be said? My noble friend has dared to avow that there ii a moral ob ligation upon the ( hristian minister of a Christian country to exhaust every effort fi r the maiutouanee of peace before incurring the risk, not to say the guilt, of war. But while he has not tbruuk from the manly avow al of that opinion, 1 will, in instievto him, add this? and it is perfectly consist ed with that opinion as to the moral obligation of maintain inn peace, ?biio peace can be maintained with honor? that there never ?u s minlnter less inclined to sacrifice any es sential Interest, or to abate anything from the dignity and h?n<r of tbia country, even for tlie purpose of securing that inei iimnble blesslnr. I believe tb? opinion thai expressed to be perfectly j juit. .J% table friend bad entered into this war not until it wss necessary, and it wag only a few days ago that I bad a loos conversation with him on the terms of peace with which we ought to be satisfied; and I mast say I entirely ctnourred in all he said, and had Ibe fullest reliance that he would net conour in any peace which is not just and honorable, and which would not be approved by the general feel ing of thin country. (Hear, hear.) Perhaps I may say a few words with respect to the government I have left, and for joinikg which 1 have been often taunted. 1 cannot but lay that I look back to my association with many of the measure* and acta of that administration with great pride and ratisfaction. (Hear, hear.) 1 look bark, above all, with the greatest pride and satis faction to tbat speech of e'oquence and wisdom deliver ed by my Bight Honorable friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer wbcu proposing his flnnnclal scheme two years sgo, and maintaining, as I believe, the true prin ciples of finance. (Hear, hear.) It is a sat.ifact'on to me to think that the splendor of tbat exhibit on was so great as to fh? d tome portion of its brilliancy on those who were his colleagues. (Hear, hear.) I know it wai laid at the time when that adruin'stration waa formed lhat tLoee with whem I had alwa3s been eonnee'ed ? the whig partj ? had not, in tbo distribution of power, that degree oi influence that properly belongs to them on account of their character, abilities and num lxrs. It always appeared to me before that period that a very unjust notion had found its way among the public to a very great extent ? aamely. that the whig party was an exclusive party, and rcqulrtd ?!1 power ana ( fliie for itr elf. sod wat net prepared tosujpor. any sy* tem of adminhtrut'ion in v hicli it (lid Lot enjoy that mouopoly. 1 mutt ray I think that oplnii n wan an un just one, and the cenduct of the whig party during the lsst two years fully justifies my opinion. 1 will venture to say that no pa>tv eveT behaved with great'r boner or more disinterested" patriotism tban tbe whig party, wbofduring the who'.e of that period, has supported the f,ov?nin-.ent of Lord Aberdeen. It is my pride, and It will ever be my pride, to the last day of my life, to have belonged to a puity which, as t conceive, upheld* the trie pr'nciiles of freedom and the juit influeose of the I eople, sr.d, whether in or out of office, it will be my t cm-tent endeavor to preset ve and to roa ntain the prin ipien which tbe great *hg party has laid down, (rhe rohle lord rat -to?n amid considerable cheering from l 01 h fides of the house.) lord I jit MKrsTu.N ? It msy be probibly expected that 1 hcu'd Lot auo w the address of my noMe friend to | is? without feme observmion on the part of tier Msjcsty's government, and, in the flr?t place, I must beg to assure my noble frin.d aud the bouse that nothing could be more painful to me, offit: ally an-1 poraoiia'ly, than the tep which he has felt it his duty to lake in separating himcelf from the government of which we were both numbers. There have been, no doubt, .at pe.rtl>-ular times, temporary differences between my noble frlead and mtself, which may have appeared to estrange ui from each ether (laughter): but 1 ran assure him that those differences have passtdaway from my mind (hear ,hear), as 1 1 row th?y have from his; and I can assure him that, whether I set with htm or whether we are divided, the great et teem which I feel for his high character and (or liis great abilities, and the deep friendship with which I sm animated towards him, never can be ejected by. the past, the present, or the futnre. (Hear ) Now, sir, uBcoubteilly 1 must a&mit, a public man has a per fect r'gbt, without any impeachment on the part of auy person, to quit office whenever he thiuks that his contin uance in office cannot be reconciled with his sense of duty ; and however those whom he may leave nay regret his loss, if he ac's in the manner I nave stated, he stands perfectly free from all reproach. 'With regard to the circumstances to which my noble friend has adverted, it is not for me to ray whether my noble friend was right or wrong in acquiescing last veer in the appo.ut mert of the Puke of Newcastle to tbe office of Secretary of ?tatefor the War Department; neither ie it for me to say wheth- r my noble friend *as right or wrong in proposing that I should be substitute"! for the noble duke in the discharge of the dutiee of that office. I waa absent in Paris at the time when the correspondence to which my nobl? friend has adverted passed between him snd I.ord Aberdei n; but 1 am ready to corroborate what my noble friend has stated, that when, on my re turn from I'nris, he communicated to me that corres 6ondence, sod when the quett.on aroie whether or out, i consequence of l.ord Aberdeen bavin; declined to adopt his re-omicendat!ons, he should deprive the go vernment of bis services. I, together with every one of his colleagues, urged and eotr'ated him not to quit the government. I certainly thought it ay doty to join with my colleagues (n earnestly requesting my nobte friend to continue to give the go vernment the benefit of bia services. The nolle lord consented to. do so; he yielded to tbe recom mendations of his colleague'; but trom that time to the period of bis r<*'gnation I am not aware that be ever re verted to the proposal which he had made to I?rd Aber deen. Now, air, I am sure my noble IrienJ a ill feel in what 1 sm stating I am speaVlngas^f 1 were not n party concerned in the transaction, hut pimply as a member of a goverrrr.entfrom which one of his coll?aguen baa departed but from the time when that correspond enee occurred ? 'rem the 2d of December, or somttvhere about tbat period? when, at the ?arnest snl oiiasim' us request of bis colleagues, my noble friend 'loneeuted to remain in office, my belief la that up to the moment tf his resignation he did not renew his proposal. Now, sir, 1 am nuite r?a<ty to admit thai my noble friend may have felt a difficulty in meeting such a motion as that which aands for tonight in tbe mme of my honorable and learned friend tbe member fcr .-beflfii M. Entertaining ?x he did an opintan tbat a charge ought to be made in the War repartn.ent,niy nob'e fri?nd may have felt a difficulty in letisting a motii n the obvicua intention of which was to eP'eit such a change, but, at tbe same time, I think my Etble friend himself. in the remark* which he made Just now a von that notion, las shown that, Independently of ail penonal ccnsidt rations, apart from all rreferen:e for one man ov< r an th< r. there were grave const! tuti >nal objections sufficient to justify any man in voting aga>n*t it k'y noble friend very properly said tint It wan lm tossihle tbat a committee of that ?ort, supervi'lng, cri I ticittng, and super n tending the daily tramacti in-i of | the War Department, could d exist w.tb thu proper dis | charge of lh? duties of that department. But, though my noble frl?nd m glit properly and n.i'u rally have coo tinned to catertam an opinion' tbat a change was n?cn ?a rj with retard to the person who bald the office of Pecretarv of State for War, yet I must ven'nre humbly to submit to blm that that opin'on ought to have been repeated to the noble I crd at tbe head of the government itfore the reassembling of Parliament after the late reeees. He ought to have (hen t e govinn. nt the opportunity of itating to b m whether c- not thit pro poeal would be accepted on b*s renewal of it. If befois Parliament ret, my noble friead had said to the heal ot th? government, "I, in common all mm kind, expect that when Parliament meets, some mo tion will be ma/e, either inculpating the govern meat or requiring an explanation from them with regard to the conduct or the war "?for, indeed, the conversation at every street corner, the leading articles In every newspaper, most have satisfied every one tbat sush an event was to be ljoke 1 for? if the roble lord hsd ssld, "Huch a motion appears to me, if not Inevitable, at least highly probable; and I tell you beforehand, tbat if it comes on I cancel reilet it, unless sac hand such changes are made in 'bed partment which com. in ts the war," then the government vould have bad the opportunity either of reconsidering tbe objec tions which had been made to the nob'e lord'e proposal, or of aequieseing in it at once. If the eame objections which bad been made to It on a former occasion had prevailed, tbey would then have had the opportunity of determining whether tbey would continue to sust tin the loss of the noble lord's services, or whether they ? ould Jecm that loea to be o' such pre om'nent impor tance a* to impose on them the aeceeaity of surrender ing their office* into the hand* of her Majesty, with a view to the formation ef soace ether government. A re s^f cation at that time, and under these circumstances might have happened without any diraarageaent to tbe parties concerned Ample time would hare been riven for arrangement* of any kitd, either for the riwMlig ?f the ex "siing geventztat ci fcr Ue f?nMti?s ef a Mi cm. Such ? j-roe?<Lng would bavo boon, in the ordinary practice of politic* : but the eoureo tftkoa by ui y noblo friend, I mut venture humbly to lubmit to him, waa not is correspondence with the usual practice of public men. (Hear ) It was one calculated inevitably to placo the government to which ho beVoapd in ft fosi ticn of eabarrassntent, to whirh, at the handj of ft col league ?t leaat, they ourtt aot to have been placed. But my noble friend? not having while ha waa In the Oabi aet made any diatinot propoeal, of which I am a ware, tor the better pretecution of the war, which had been re jected, ana en tbo rrjection of which he waa entitled to ?ay tbat ha could nut continue to borespoaslble for mea sured of which he disapproved? on Tueodav evening last, after having appeared In this House, and having given notioo of motlona which he .bad to mftko la hi* capa city of Presldoat of the Council, writes to the noble lord at the head of the government, tendere hia re signation upon the simple ground that he is unable to reiiat the motion of the honorable and learned member for ?beffleld. If as I have said before, my noble Mead's resignation was founded upon the objection of the Firat I ord of the Treasury to adopt the change which he had proposed in it* tfer Department, I think he would have done better to have repeated that reason la the letter fn which he tendered Ins resignation. That would have given the noble earl at tbo head of the government the opportunity of reconsidering the pro pom I, and the rea sons on which it waa founded, and if he had declined to adopt it. and my noble friend had atill continued of opin ion that that was a line q* id non change which he had I roposed, then hia resignation would have been plased on i rounds to which it appears to me nobody could in reaaon ! ave taken any objection. But I must say that I think the roblo lord's colleagus are entitled, no: only to feel regret at iho less of 10 groat, ao eminent, and so influential a number of the government and or this Houae. but they ?re entitle! alto to say that that lose occurred to them in a manner in wblch, according to nsual practice, thay were not jnitifled in expecting it. (Hear.) With re- , tard, therefore, to the circumstances under which my . i oble friend has quitted office, I feel bound to state that ! 1 think the hasty and precipitate manner la whlsh he tendered hia resignation was a departure from the ordi nary practice, end was a measure, I can hardly say of which the government had a right to complain, but which, at least, tbey were not justified la expecting. Having stated thus mueh on this part of the subject, I ?hall abstain from any fnrthrt remarks with regard to it. I can assure my noble friend that, in making this criticism upen the course he haa pursued, 1 do it from a stioag sense of duty, and not from any unfriendly feel ing towards him. f Hear, from Lord John Russell. ) I entirely agree with the opinion expressed by the noble lord, towards the close of nis address, that, whoever may he changed with the management of the war in future, will feel it bia duty, aa far as his functions go. to con duct the war with vigor and energy, with a view to a successful result. Undoubtedly I concur in that view, and her Majesty's government have felt it their duty, notwithstanding the loss which they have *u stained by the s< cession sf the noble lord, net to run away from the motion which is to come on this evening. 1 hey have felt that it would have been a disgraceful Might ii they had not determined to meet that root on. We stand as we are, minus the lcs-i of the noble lord? (laughter) ? and without any other change We are ready to meet the motion as we stand, and if it should be carritd, as of course may ensue, it is unnecessary for me to say what the result will be. (Hear, and a laugh.) If, in the course of the debate, reasons shoull be urged ? gainst tie motion, of sufficient weight to induce the House to reject it, why then it will be for her Hsjesty's government to consider what course they will pursue with regard to their composition lor tbe future. ( laugh.) This, however, we say, tbat whoever may lc the person charged with the conduct of this war, it must be conducted In tbe manner described by the noble lord ? in accordance with tbe public feeling of the country, and with all the energy and vigor of which the govern ment is capable. (Hear, hear.) If it be to conducted, 1 concur with my r oble friend that this war cannot fail of being brought to a successful issue. We have for us not only the unan mnue and enthusiastic feeling of tbe Brit:ah nation, but we have alto tbe cordial persistence and co operation of our great ally, the Emperor of the I'rrncb, and the Fremh nation. (Hear.) I must say that one of the most magnificent spectacles which his tory bas ever presented to mankind, is to soe these two great nations nnitir g their efforts in ao noble and glcri ous a cause. We have often seen in former times two great Towers united aud co-operating for the purpose* of Injustice, in the pursuit of lurtber conquest, and for tbe destruction of the independence of natioae; but this is the first time in 'ha history of mankind in which we have te^a two great nations co-operating cordially and earnestly as one l'ower in support of a cause honorable to both. (Hear, h?ar ) It must be evident, therefore, tk at if the energies of this ccnntry are d.rocted, in co operation wi'.h those of the French nation, by a govern uent which knows the value of the instruments it pos tetses, r.nd which appreciates the objects it has io view, my noble frii nd will prove a true prop1 et, and the war will be conducted to aa honoro Me and safe peace? a pcace which will secure not only tbe dignity of tne coun try, but the independence and future tranquility of Europe. (Cheeis.) THE CONDUCT OF THE W A R? TERRIBLE 8CATB1NG OF THE ENGLISH (JOVEKV HENT. Id the Houte of ComKoni on the 2<5th ult., Mr. Reiveccif ro?e 1o more for a stlect com.uittee to inquire in'o 'be condition of our army before Sebaito jol, and into tbe condu ;t ot those departments of the goveinnr.oot; whose duty it has been to minister to the * ants of that aim*. Ice melancholy condition of our umy, be < bserved, bad been acknowledged by l.?rd J. ru??(il, who IfU coafisied that be was unable, as a Minister o' tl e Crown, to re-kt tills nw'lon; yet, in the ume breath, he had declared that he should not support the motion by sjeecb or T^vte. The question divided ittelf into 1*0 parU ? liiat, what was the condition of tie aju>y before Sebait'p-1; the second, hoi* that tra dition bnd b?eti brouglr about? Withrnpect totbecoq dition of tbe nrmy there could n"!t b? two opinions; all he bad to do. theref' re, <ru to > .ibmit to the llo.:re that inquiry was ncccaccry to ascertain w bat were the ?? I j which that condition had been brought about. We had tent f4 100 tclditrt proytrhj equi/ipnl, u-ho liadd< iu: all thty could to uyhold the honor of the caunlvy. At pre lent there were not more than 14.000 bayonets I, ??/ore Se lathpol. H'Jiaf hod btcotnenf the 40,000 t H? believed that the condii'on of the army had be', a brought about >y the incapacity, at heme and abroad, of tboae whose duty it was to m ninter tc ita wants. | Mr. S. Hxrbekt, in resisting the moti: n, observed tliat the first cauie of the demoralisation of the anny ?as to be feutd in the system we had pursued for the list forty Tear*. The Knglisb army was a collection of regiment", in every one of which there existed a perfect regimental mtoi but the ticld officers in command of the regi ments Dad sever k en a brigade, and were unacquaintei with the e>rgani*?tlon of large bod? s. The men, too, in this highly civilized country never >arr.t to do anything for them elves. We had never entered upon any great war, ha renr*rktd, whieh did not Vgln with great re verfes; but in the preent instance th*r? hud been also great military fuccetses. After deta'ling the measures adopted by the goverraaent to provide adequate supplies of stores for the army, ha contended that ii was unjust, without information, to lay b'axo upon ab rent men. The government had no wish ti cenceal ary portion of their conduct in tins matter, and every IntortnaMen required should b? laid epen the table or the Bouse. He insisted that great delusions open this subject prevailed in the country. He -retailed the steps taken to remedy defective arrange ments by the gcvtnment, which hid acted, he said, upon every practicable suggestion He endeavored to show, upon various (rounds, the inexpediency of the motion, which wss calculated, in his opinion, to para lyse the action of the (tovernmint at home end of the a utheiit lea abroad. The committee would ei'her gain no information. < r it would be obtained at the expense of tbe army. He arked the House if it tna-> up ita mind to tat e this couite, to avow it at ence by a plain and in tell'gille decide?. The government stood in a preca rious petition; It had received a heavy blo-v by the se cession of one of it* mert Important members, anl he hoped the Hem* considering well the course it ought to take, and the perils which surrounded Ihe < oun'ry, would decide the question at once and In plain Isn gnage. Mr. H. Cbcmmonp. ? The Right Hon. gentleman shill understand, at least from m?. plainly and Intelligibly, that I do impnte it to tbe gross ineomjietenee of some man er men tba* an event has occurre 1 without a paral lel in history ; the* an ari^y, three ti?eg victorious, Las been left to peiisb, to be utterly destroyed, by the in cmjetrnce of iVese who ought to htw supported it. Tbe wkole country Is in wrath with somebody, but no one seems to I now who that somebody should he. (Hear, hesr.) That Is the plain question ?e want to have answer ed, It this wrath confined to on* party, or ii there not a hurst of indignation frem one end of the kingdom to tb< other? Is i* not re-echoed from Cermany and from Franco? I* it not asked fn all *beir papers, what can the Erglisb government be composed off Arid was ever such eru'lty exbibiu-d toward* men as that with whbh tbey 1 ave treated their army ? I shoull have thought tbe Rlf ht Hon. gentlemen themselves would be thi- very first to thank us for coning forward anJ aslingforlnfor mat on. 1 am not content to threw tbe blame on a gov ernment. I can und rstand that It is very decent and prope r and right fe r all tho gentlemen sltt r? th re to j ut tt'msel.eR "orware*. In wile r to screen th" r subor dinates; but It Is not sati 'factory to us. Docs any one mean to say that ft is the fault of the Right Hon. gentleman that the army fs starv ng ' So; but it is t'ue raull of the government. Does any rne say that It is the fanlt of tbe ni'ble I'm! ? Ko; but It is that of the govern ment. Why did the noble lord retire f Ik -anse he has rot yst been able satisfactorily to ?s -erts.n nr>on whom tbe 'fanlt rests. My right honorable friend has pletely ( vsded tie qnest'em. I thought tils s nee b the other" night m>>et conclusive for ht? own def n *; tbe enly fsult I find with it Is, that It was t?> clever. It showed him to he a very e'oquent man. Klouuencc is a tine ait, ihe sl?t?r of poetry and painting, and there is a string Isipfly likeness. Tbo consequence w?s, that when we got the ?jeech In plain black and white b-f., re us, msny th rgs snpesred very dlfTeren'. to what they were b?for- tbey had been translated. There was no doubt as to the prcpriety of sending troops to Varna, for tbe aeelslence, as was said, of " the Turks anl c'vilirttion, ' although how the two got together I know not. (A laufh.) Varna lies en tbe rosd from Russia to Constau fr.ople, snd t was very natural to nlant an armv there; hut, to my Infinite astonishment. I round, after tne armr bsd arilvid there, that One of the essen'WIs of an army - srmi ly, a wsgen train?had been wholly fer/ot ten; and it Etiw turns ont that the Duke of Newcastle, having eert tbe army 'here in Peptember -having always In tended to rend It ther?? Just diseorered ? three wseUs j sro? that a wsg' n trsin waa neceerary. and accordingly tOegr'phed to Co'oisel Ma-nurdec to come orsr, mho, I hellev- . remt'ned lere for three waeks. Mr. Hirrrrt *aid a wagon train did exist, but It was under tbe commissariat, until the alteratlem te which the hotorable gentleman referred bad teen made. Mr. H D*Vl?os* ? The army retrained for a consider able time in that nnhealthv place, Varna, no une knows why. fending an army wf'.bout a wagon traie, is like sending a ship to sea without masts or steam. But ! am not ge ng t<> enter into the military question? I shall take 'he vulgareet- locking view of thewhole ?uljeei? for I th nb that if there baa been eense enough In the gov ernment to menage a private commercial concern, they wonW have got over this wtjnderful seven mles. There i? no doubt that my right heaorab'e friend has fully dis charged hi* duty, that he baa lent oat articles uberaliy sad lavishly, an<; that we shall have to pay a lavish bill for them fcv the persona for whom we hetight, and to when w? itjjt ttoem, Mver get U?e?? Uiat ia ttie potnt. to allow officer* of etTib* r hnraaa. because " Oalonel Colonel TO 1Ut* f<? ?onibi after they were bought, Sremaiaad in Spafe, and I do not know wbaKar hart aver been sent o*t at alL The Inquiry w? to mtke la aa to how theee things came about. How waall ajain, that 4he commandcr-in chief did not give the Dnka of Newcaatto a hint that he had forgotten the wagentreinsT Dom the Duke of Newcastle e'er go to a friead'a to dinner by railway r I f so, doe* bo not aacertain before be arrivee at the itation whether hi* friend will tend hia carriage to carry him the odd twa miles to hia house? If not, that two milea may loee him hia c inner in the aame way that the odd seven milea ia the Crimea hare lo>t the armv their dinner. Bat thia ia a till more remarkable. Only Mat spring Lord Harding* iaaued an order directing each man to carry in hia kit 3K lb. leaa lban before, promising that that &U lb. ahould be carried at the public expenae Could not Load Hardinge hare aaked the Duke of Newcastle whether ha had any mean* of carrying theee ban age* ? We may lemember, too, the debate* in the Houae of Lorda, ia which Lord Elknborougb dlatlnctly alluded to tbia quea tion of wagon tralna, and pointed out either thair dis Unca from the scene of action or their inefficiency. But I now pen on to the most extraordinary thing. I loot t.igbt of the army for a time, whan on a sudden I found hat It bad lett Varna and gone to the Crimea. What eppeartd : o extraordinary to mo waa, the war being un dertaken for the defence of Turkev, that her llajaatj 'a Ministers, this House, and the whole country, should hmk that the defence of Turkay and the invasion of be territory of Russia waa ona and the sama hing. At the end of the last war, the govern ment deeired the Duke of Wellington to draw up a state ment upon the military power of Russia, it* power of aggression upon Europe, and its means of defenoe. The duke did so, and we never heard or thought mora of it until he came into office many year* afterwards, when he found thai ti.e governments of Austria, Bavaria and Prussia bad obtained the sama kind of information, and the three reports were lying in aome office in thii country. They all agreed upon this point, that however Buaaia might blaster she couli do nothing in the way of attacking the rest of Kurojpe; hat that ail the other Powers of Europe would perish in a>i attempt to attack Ruiaia. This appeared to me a very strong reaion against our proceeding ss we did. But It waa still mora extraordinary that the army ahould hava been sent Into the Crimea without any of the aeceesary information. The light honorable gentleman laid the other night that Lord Baglan bad been directed to procure the best infor mation. They bad written to Lord Raglan to pros u re in formation I Why, it reminds me of the Chinese procla mation? "Sound tbe gongs, and drive the bari-arianrt Into the sea." (A laugh.) Writing to Lord- Rag, an did aot give b m the information he wanted. Why did you not make our ambassador at Constantinople procure that Id formation for you b-jtore yon went to the Crimea t ( Cheer*. 1 My right honorable friend ha* alluded to ? inter that I troubled him with, bnt I alio forwarded hia a letter relative to a person who was thoroughly mas tor of tha language, and who offered bin service* ta the government to procure information for them. The right honorable gentleman gave *ne a civil answer, and the perton was not employed. (A laugh ) I know that Lord Stratford wai aaked for thia Information in 1863, and that a relation of mind waa snnt to I> rd Stratford, and recommended to him ? perton who tipoke the whole of the languages of thn country. Lord Stratford was implored to e?nd this ner scr to tha Crimea, to obtain information. Instead of which, the army was sent with no knowledge either oC the fortifies tionr or the country, the force in the town of t'ebai-topol itself, or tl u Kus<ian force in he Crimea. I say this was a most raih and ill-considered proceeding, and that the th'iig wanted was the Information which the government had refused to take measures to obtain ? It is all very fine now to talk abont despising calumny. Tbe only doubt I have Is, whether there has not been too much leaning on tho part of the government in the di rection of the newspapers (hear, hear), an l whether, if it had not been lor tbe newspapers, that expedition to Sevastopol would ever have been sent. (Heir, hear ) Vou did not know, aa I have said tbe nature of the soil, the extent of the fort.licationi, the number of msn in the p!ace, cr tbe dispoiitlon of the inhabitant*; and sa ill informed have you been, and so ill-informed baa Lord Faglnn been, that wbile the German newspapers ? no doubt instructed by the Russian Min'sters in those States? have from time to published statements detail ing the number of reinforcement* **nt by the Emperor id Kussia into the Crimea. I.ord Kaplan had no know lodge whatever oflthe arrival of those reinforcements. The diplomatic department ought to have sup plied this kind of infcrmntlon, and the Minis ters at Detlin aud other places ought to be a?k?d what they have been about to neglect, this information. I sh'uld lika, also, to know tbe truth aVout the opinion* of officers highly placed relative tea tl e amount 01 force nece^aij for this expedition. 16 has been stated by tbe friends of Marsha! St. Araaud tbat it was hia opinion that it waa impoaaibla to exoect s uc jesa unless the fortress of Sebastopol was invested by in a: my of 60,0( 0 men, with another army of 60,000 be sides 'o protect the besiegers. 1 ahould l c to know whether other commanders did not ahare th it opinion. I remember bearing that a strong opinion wai expresseJ bv an ofliccr high In our service, who was engaged in tha expedition, that the force which invested Sabai'opol waa not Fufticient. In the last edition of awoik by Sir 11. Douglas 1 find Sir H Douglas is of opinion that, to invada tlit Crimea, and lay siege to Sebastopol tha force at our command, was a desperate and darinp operation, and that it was undertaken contrary to tha judgment of n eminent en^iieer ofilor, whose opinion ought to hava been taken, lint while it would Lot \e; to prova thai several p< rtons of high authority thought tha forca sent to the Crimea was insufficient, the course 1 shall pursue ia to give the government everything tcey ask in order to carry on the war, strongly objecting to youe wlio'c proceeding* ftom beginning to end. The landing i f the troops In tne Crimea waa, I admit, a well effected nd creditable operation. (Hear, hear.) It w It, indeed, onsidering the extent of the force to be landed, a moat , wonderful thing, and people who think that ti e landing [ e f such an army upon a hostile shore is aa easy a thins I as goir g down to a wbiteba't dinner at o'reenwi :b, fceow | very llt'le of the difficulties of auch an undertaking, j (Cheers.) I then coma to tbe case of tbe art lierr. Note, I aid y< u intend to invade Russia or not? If you aid, why was there no proper ale,,* artillery ready? (Heir.) Only | this mcrnlng I received a letter from an officer in I the atmy, who cava " lliere was not ona eingi* K -inch mortar for the first two months of the siege." Then, again, why waa no provision made for hospital ac I ommodation? There were neither bospitala at Balaklava . nor at Scutari. And btre. again, 1 wish to attribute no blame to my right honorable friend. He ha* done ad niliably in sending 10,000 beds, but I do aot bel.evethey j are put up yet at fccutari. Part are at use place and : part at another? like the Mloie rifles, which were seat to ; Gie plate, while the anraunition waa sent to another. ' j Why waa there not a supercargo on lioard the govern i ment veitels, who had command of the tbisgs on board, aDd who knew what ought to be left at ea:h plico a, ! wbieh tbe vessel stopped.' There were provisions with ? out eed at BsJaklava, but tba army eauld not get them I b" no one had the ordtr to give them out. (Hoar, , bear.) lie rommiasariat has b<-en, aa they a<y, in tha | hand- of ihe Treasury. Lard Aberdeen wa* the head of tha Tr?as?ry, and was it |>o*>ibl? tbat tbe whole feeding of the army wae Intrusted to Lord Aberdeen and tha cleika of the Treasury? No wonder, if so, that tha , tro'.'ps could not get anything to eat. 1 have received a^ loiter from to officer in tho Guards. The honorable m?mh< r proceeled to read the lMter, whi"h stated tbat tha writer met the cole-nel of bi* regiment with a pair oC | iiddlebaga upon bis bon?, iriih which he wai to Balaklava to draw tallow candle* for hi* men, which, it wa* atatod in a general order, would be isv.ied for tbelr use. They went together to the store*, where they were told that there was not a tallow candle In all Balaklava. .'neither general order waa iaaued that any regiment ?night hava potatoe* on application. Down tha writer went to Balaklava, bnt none could he get for hia tbe Dmka of Newcastle refused regiaaanta to take their foui Kinloch waa sona^ta^^M | nieu, ai'iiougn ions o( point ton at BaiakMva T*re be I ginriag to decay. f-'ocn.r tban tbrow them overboard, I the Frsncb Soldier* Rot Mum for nothing. Why, then, tbe writer aalod. weiothf** general order* given to la. ?ue potatoes and candlos, except to humbug the peopla or iogland t The men, 100, be added, were one year in arrears of clothing. It had been at Scu'ar! for month*, and tt had been promised to be brought up; bat it wag ! thtre still, and tie ir.en were In rag*, the writer of thi? . letter says tbla tort of thing baa been cauce<1 by the ; country* neglect. I t'j it ban been cau*e<l aolfly by i Minitbilal Incompet* nee. (Cluera.) So, again, tbo j militia clothing bar befn delayed, until the tailors liava I lost ?10, COO, because l ord Hardirge oould not nettle the cut of tfcose ridiculous German peat boy coata. (A iaugb.) In order *aa aent to Gibraltar forth* men there 1o practice with the Mini* rifle. But from the day | en which the order waa given, until a few week* ago, 1 understand there waa not a Mini* rifle t" be cot there. With regard to tliia V nie rifle, I belter* that Mr West Is* Richards went to an enormous* espens*, and in : curifd a (re at deal of trouble, to perfect tt. After * wrarinome delay one of Ilie specimen* waa *?le:t?d, an 1 what did tte goveroment do ? Tbey sent it to l.lepe to b? rr>ern'scinr<d. and there ttey hIko man u fact, re Mini* riflea fcr the Emperer of Russia. Upon Inquiry, I fin I j that Mr. Fllder la ilill at tbo head Of the com missariat at ??ba*tnpol, who was tie man that Sir ll.rmas Melon wanted to hang, (laughter) VThen the wooden hut* were first Ul'.ed about the Duke of Ntr.cas'.l* waa asked how they were to be got up from K'alaMava to the camp f "Ob," ?aya he, "the men :an f raw tb<m np." They are already or*rworke' by o'her duty, aid it baa been calculated that It would take the labor of 2,510 man for thrre weeks to draw them to th* camp. Bj tie laat oc< ounta it waa stated tLat some of thrm liad arrlred, and that they ware b-in< carried op ? j two planks at a time upon mu'.oa, the plunks being burnt up for firewood ** tbe* arriesil, from the uniikeli h< o<! of tti* rsit aver follow 'ng them. The wan*, of shoe* snd other elothing haa besn disgraceful, an! tb^se de tallr w? can < nly get it b? a cotrtml tee of th a Hons*, which I tbsreff re think cught to be granted, < Hear, bear.) Tte original fault, from the beginning, 1 tike not to be not so much a single fault ai an aggregation of fault*, arising fttm jour having daspi>edj<nr enemy too much, (fleur, hear ) Whatever the LotortH* m*m ? t<rf<rthe West Riding may say, hi* talk shout erimpiini; t p I'.u>?ia lik* a sheet of paper ran through the country, snd people thought that Russia *a* a little, foolish, ae on 'rate Power, which yon had tb* mean* ol cimpliog up whenever you liked. User) I was sorry to heat U ? noble lerd (J Russell) say tbat th* all:** wer* wiil 1 irg to allow Rnasia to rwra'n a great Pow*r. I with yo l (to the r.oble lord) mar rtmaln great as long as the *m | pireofPn'sia. (A laugh ) This kind of blm!*riog has been I rostmdbv your apecches st the Reform Club. The ap p< intment of the n*w Minister at War, with hi> pr*s*ot r<i*e'?, haa been aomethlng Ilk* a trick cpon th* liouse, becsuse, wl en I put a '|u**tion to th* givarn j ment snd asksd them to glv* us a Minister at War, it was in tba rensedn which the appointment had been re con mended by Lord Orey, Lord hllenboroug j, and tb* ngbt he norabl* member for Coventry, (Mr. !?_ FJIIc*. ) I am sorry to *** th* noMe lord on th* fourth b?n-.b be hind the ministry, "1-ong may h* live, and happy may ; he bo." A laugh > He has U*n aacriUced in order to get foi ua thi* war m.nUter. I am sorry h* baa coat s> murk. I think he might bav* been got at a he* per rate. Put we mnat have a war miniiMr, and o tr whole military operation* must be placed onder one head if wo ! sre not to o*com* th* langbinn stock of Europe. (Hear, hsar.) The o?ce of Tlrat Ix>rd of the Treaaary !e a very responsible on*, and one requiring upon neflrti** th* 1 sxer-We of Bach firmness, and if the F?r*t I/wd men her of hi* c*bln*t aonduetlng a war wb'cb ha know* no more bow to manage than a (team engteo, it would bnvt bo*n better for him to flvo him ? iw?tfc ?

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